【新语丝电子文库(www.xys.org)(www.xys2.org)】 ———————————————— comments on Wall Street's titles Hi there Shared many views with NS's article on your site: http://www.xys.org/xys/ebooks/others/science/dajia/vp9.txt Just a few comments: As for 2(4) (Regarding to LI Bin), one of my friends passed following link to me. I was shocked when I read his bio. In his bio, LI Bin claimed that he "joined Swiss Bank Corporation in 1997 and went on to become one of SBC's 6-member executive committee for North America." It clearly stated that LI Bin is one of Swiss Bank's 6-member executive committee for North America. This just went too far! How could be possible for a guy with just four years Wall Steet experiences (according to his bio, he graduated in 1992 and spent one year as a postdoc. Joined Merrill Lynch in 1993) to be promoted as a member of firm's executive committee with serveral thousands of employees in North America?? He was not even a managing director (MD) at that time. (There were probably many dozens MD at the Swiss Bank, N.A. http://af.ustc.edu/new/Interviews/li_b.html ) This doesn't do anything good for USTC, a top school in China as this is a posing on its site. As for 4, many people on the Wall Street graduate from top schools. Some of them receive PhDs. An advanced degree (MBA or PhD) from top school will give you a good entry point to top Wall Street firms such as Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, among others. Unfortunately, when you start to work, Wall Street firms don't care too much on your PhD (plus how many fileds need your PhD knowledge). What they really care about is about how much contribution you can make for the firm (revenue and clients etc). It's not often to see that PhDs from top schools will be promoted to MD level within 2-3 years, unless these PhDs are well-established before join the firm. For example, HE Hua (graduated from MIT) was a tenured professor of finance at UC Berkeley before joined Salomon Brother. On the opposite, I persoanlly met two PhDs at a top Wall Street firm. One graudated from Harvard in Physics. He is smart but he was still an Associate (one level below VP) 3 years after joined with the firm. Another guy equipped an Applied Math from Standford. He was not a VP until fifth year. Again, PhDs on Wall Street don't mean much for at least two reasons: (1) there are just too many PhDs :=(; (2) some of PhDs don't do much for the Wall Street firms. Wall Street is very practical: you are valuable only when you can make money for the firm. Small correction(?), to my best knowledge, ZHU Yu who is working for Merrill Lynch, is not an MD. By the way, another folks from mainland China has been on top level circle here is HU Shenhua. He is now Senior Managing Director and head of fixed income derivatives at Bear Stearns. A minor note, he did't receive a PhD although he was in Stanford's PhD program. Regards, A Wall Streeter from Mainland - YC ———————————————— 【新语丝电子文库(www.xys.org)(www.xys2.org)】